Outscoring the ATI Retail Radeon8500 is no easy feat for an OEM product, but the upped clock speeds of the Soyo Radeon8500 easily accomplishes that goal. With the promise of a clockspeed of 290/290 in their shipping product, the scores only promise to edge higher. Obviously a great software package will help to sweeten the deal, but this card in and of itself is a great prouct. HOpefully Soyo will diversify their Powered by ATI line of video cards, since they are already turning out such high quality products at the initialization of their production. Soyo continues to build upon their great reputation with this card. I'm looking forward to the new cards that Soyo might choose to produce in the future.