Calling all braniacs! What's the final conclusion?

Which came first the chicken or the egg?

I have to say, since new species are anomalous offspring from the previous species or cross breeding between species, it would stand to reason an egg with a chicken in it had to come from a species the chicken evolved from, and had the change in genetic make up that did not previously exist, and therefore, the egg came before the chicken!

What do you think?

Interesting deduction. I'll agree with that.

While I agree with you, let's play a little intelligent design. I firmly believe in evolution, so don't think I'm arguing for it.

ID would say that it just was that way. Stupid isn't it?

Duh, the Chicken came first. That is what god made.

And I don't need yo fuckin Christian hatin' attitude.

Although I am religious, from an evolution standpoint, my bet is that there was no "chicken", as the chicken came into being over thousands of years of evolution. Therefore, some fucked up bird came first, which after 3 million years, it finished its transformation into the chicken.

yes i believe in that theory too, the egg came before the chicken, so that the egg could have babies and so on. although i never thought of it to be evolution.

That's kind of like the question which came first the geico commercial or the neandertal man. :O

You a funny guy!!!!!!!!

Neither,

The eggs came first say I

It has to be some kind of egg. As the species evolved their features also did and so the egg came first. THAT is for sure.

Unless the first chicken with egg-laying capabilities came from a viviporous proto-chicken. I admit this is a long shot, but with hopeful monsters and all...

Ah, but consider the possibility that a chicken was an evolutionary process from a species of animal which was a live birth species. Thus, the new offshoot of this species (the chicken) evolved first and THEN for adaptive purposes became an egg laying creature...

It's all in the definitions: What is a chicken? What is an egg? How close to either one does an entity have to be in order to be considered on.

Age old question. I wish that scientists would actually find the exact answer to this.

Kind of on the same thread: Which animal do you eat both before they are born and after they are born? That would be the chicken. This was the question on our local radio station the other day. Actually alot of people guessed wrong.

Actually, if you read the Bible, it says that God made everything in it's form - meaning that things were fully grown when they were created. So, from the Biblical viewpoint, there's no question - the chicken came first and produced after its kind.

"form" = "adult form" is a bit of a leap for me. Couldn't that mean "genetic form"?

To continue the debate, what is the definition of "came"? The genetic potential for a chicken was in the egg, but the genetic potential to create eggs was in the proto-chicken that created the egg.

Can you fall down a bottomless pit?

Also keep in mind that an egg is not necessarily a chicken...heck, it may not even be fertilized, and may never be a chicken at all.

I think society has answered this question time and time again... eggs are for breakfast, chicken is for dinner. Breakfast comes BEFORE dinner.

Unless you are on the night shift.

I like the breakfast answer. I will have to remember that one the next time this question comes up. I have never heard of it explained quite that way but I like that answer the best.

I guess we could debate this until the end of time, and may never really know the answer, or maybe not the answer we want to hear. Personally, I think I'll stick with the Bible's answer. I just can't believe that an egg, which HAS to be fertilized to develop into a chicken, could have shown up on earth without there being something that LAID that fertilized egg.

So, no takers on my bottomless pit question? Remember, gravity is just a theory! I kid... I kid...

chicken = specific type of bird

egg = zygote resulting from fertilization of the ovum. Term "egg" most common when referring to birds or reptiles.